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Re: 1-4-1 Variation

#21 Post by Alpha1 »

It took me literally 5 minutes to take that picture off the forum resize it and re post it.
I don,t get it I really don,t get it. I have said it before and I say it again its a simple thing to do.
If a 68 year old decrepit guy can cope with it WHAT is the problem with posting pictures.
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#22 Post by Polchraine »

Alpha1 wrote:It took me literally 5 minutes to take that picture off the forum resize it and re post it.
I don,t get it I really don,t get it. I have said it before and I say it again its a simple thing to do.
If a 68 year old decrepit guy can cope with it WHAT is the problem with posting pictures.
Exactly, post a size reduced one unless the hi definition is needed.

The original is also easy to big on a laptop with additional screen.


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#23 Post by Mattnall »

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38Super wrote:I did the same and was told by Avon & Somerset that it was only a free 141 when having one that's been sold removed and you could have the slot changed and then only within 28 days of the sale. They let me off the charge in the end though.
Funnily enough, thats exactly the scenario I was doing with my one, was part'exing my 30-06 for the 7.92x57 with a RFD, not that they mentioned any time limit between the two, but in fairness to the Met, they also let me off the 20 quid as well (as long as I didn't do it again)
Even though there is no time limit in law and the Guidance specifically mentions this fact.
HO Guidance wrote: 10.71.....There is no set time in which the certificate holder must apply for a replacement authority once their firearm is disposed of. .....
Let them get away with it and it will become the way things are done. Have a polite conversation pointing out the reasons why and things usually come round to the correct way of doing it. I know the police have wide powers to interpret the Guidance but there has to be a valid reason why they decide to go against HO best practice and Guidance.
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#24 Post by 38Super »

Mattnall wrote:
HO Guidance wrote: 10.71.....There is no set time in which the certificate holder must apply for a replacement authority once their firearm is disposed of. .....
Thanks for the pointer. I clearly don't know the guidance as well as I should.
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#25 Post by forbie »

Whenever I have done a 1-4-1 in the past I always say "On Disposal of" (the firearm I wish to sell) and the one I wish to buy. Never been a problem for Aberdeenshire. Lets you keep your gun and replace it without having to wait for a variation after you sold it.
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#26 Post by CraigH »

Am I correct in thinking that you can 1-4-1 a moderator for a firearm? I am sure I saw this discussed and is the only reason I requested to have them on my license.
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#27 Post by snayperskaya »

CraigH wrote:Am I correct in thinking that you can 1-4-1 a moderator for a firearm? I am sure I saw this discussed and is the only reason I requested to have them on my license.

Yes you can :good:
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#28 Post by CraigH »

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#29 Post by Pippin89 »

CraigH wrote:Am I correct in thinking that you can 1-4-1 a moderator for a firearm? I am sure I saw this discussed and is the only reason I requested to have them on my license.
In theory you could 1-4-1 a .22LR Moderator for a .50BMG rifle!
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#30 Post by TRG-22 »

I doubt that people who can afford to buy and run .50BMGs are that bothered about paying, or not paying, for variations, except on grounds of principle.
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