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Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:02 pm
by Old Chap
A question if I may. Is there a reference table anywhere that matches different cases with common bolt faces?
Thanks
O.C.
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:48 pm
by ovenpaa
I have some listed in varying forms for .223 and .308 but the list is endless and my specific interest was cartridges sharing the .223 and .308 case. Hopefully RGC will pick this up as he may well have a definitive list in written format.
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:33 pm
by R.G.C
ovenpaa wrote:I have some listed in varying forms for .223 and .308 but the list is endless and my specific interest was cartridges sharing the .223 and .308 case. Hopefully RGC will pick this up as he may well have a definitive list in written format.
No, Davy, I do not have a list, and I do not think one exist, except perhaps stock lists of shell holders manufacturers..LOL
Commonly, one can consider 4 dimensions are the most common: .223 case head dia.9,6mm , PPC-Russian, dia 11,18mmn Belted Magnums dia 13,51mm and Short Magnums, dia 13,59mm. For both magnums, I consider a single bolt head diameted, as the difference is so minimal that the larger one is to consider fer a common bolt head diameter...
There is so many different diameters, still common or obsolete..A good reference is the P.A.U.LA software available from Triebel.
I have a file of common CJP revised cartridge and chambers sheets that I can send on PM demand.
R.G.C
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:54 pm
by GazMorris
R.G.C wrote:
Commonly, one can consider 4 dimensions are the most common: .223 case head dia.9,6mm , PPC-Russian, dia 11,18mmn Belted Magnums dia 13,51mm and Short Magnums, dia 13,59mm. For both magnums, I consider a single bolt head diameted, as the difference is so minimal that the larger one is to consider fer a common
Your list reads like you skipped one. What about standard 0.473 face (circa 12mm) for 308Win, 6mmBR, 30/06 etc... ?
Gaz
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:18 pm
by ovenpaa
I did run a quick search of the P.A.U.L.A Database and a quick count shows in excess of 130 cartridges in the .308 bolt face region. Unfortunately they are in a format that does not allow me to copy and paste the list of chamberings.
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:57 pm
by 1066
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:21 am
by R.G.C
GazMorris wrote:R.G.C wrote:
Commonly, one can consider 4 dimensions are the most common: .223 case head dia.9,6mm , PPC-Russian, dia 11,18mmn Belted Magnums dia 13,51mm and Short Magnums, dia 13,59mm. For both magnums, I consider a single bolt head diameted, as the difference is so minimal that the larger one is to consider fer a common
Your list reads like you skipped one. What about standard 0.473 face (circa 12mm) for 308Win, 6mmBR, 30/06 etc... ?
Gaz
Correct, Gaz, you know my excuse LOL... The 12mm/.473 is the most common of all of them. I could count a quantity in american(initial base 30-03 then 30-06) and european (initial base 7x57, 8x57 or 7,92 I. then IS)...
Sprry
R.G.C
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:51 am
by GazMorris
R.G.C wrote:
Correct, Gaz, you know my excuse LOL...
Yes, thought it would be the case!
We seem to keep missing each other at Bisley. The weather was so foul I spent most of the time not shooting the caravan drying off kit!
Gaz
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:55 am
by Old Chap
Gentlemen thank you for your prompt replies, I was not aware that so many variations existed.
1066, your link provides my answers, now to trawl through it!- thanks.
Old Chap
Re: Common Bolt faces
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:03 am
by ovenpaa
These should suit the .308 bolt face.
9.3x57Mauser
30Gibbs
7.7mmJapanese
22-250Rem
250Sav
22BR
224Clark
22CheetahMkI
6mmBR
243Win
6mmRem
240WbyMag
260Rem
6.5mm-'06A-Square
7mmBR
7mm-08Rem
7x57
7x64Brenneke
280Rem
300Sav
308Win
30-'06Springfield
7.65ArgentineMauser
8x57Mauser
8mm-'06Spr
8x60S
338-'06A-Square
358Win
35Whelen
9.3x62Mauser
375RimlessNE2-1/4
6mm-284Win
25-284Win
220Swift
25-'06Rem
284Win
240Apex (BeltedNE)
6.5x55Swede
EDIT - I forgot to add this came from RGC
