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No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:10 pm
by ovenpaa
Not really a loaded question, I am just curious... So, have you ever seen a No32 Mk1 or indeed a Mk2 or 3 on anything other than a No4(T) or an L42? I am interested in both civilian and military applications, even a one off on an old .22 rim-fire will be of interest.

I am sure they were not always silly money and people must have used surplus examples on other rifles.

Anyone?

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:56 am
by Chapuis
I've never seen one myself other than on a L42 or a No4(T) but I have seen photographs of them mounted on a Bren gun which I understand was the original intention for this scope.

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:22 pm
by waterford103
Many many years ago saw one grafted onto a p14 , decent job of attachment but not over the bore . This was at Altcar range and shooting at the longest range , he was doing quite well with it.

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:53 pm
by GeeRam
waterford103 wrote:Many many years ago saw one grafted onto a p14 , decent job of attachment but not over the bore . This was at Altcar range and shooting at the longest range , he was doing quite well with it.
There's a guy in the USA that has put a Mk.1 scope on a P14......will see if I can find the photos that he posted.

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:05 pm
by GeeRam
Found it and it maybe the same one you saw, as I think the guy is maybe from UK and Sheffield area?
Although, it looks like his one is not an offset scope and is mounted on a 4T style bracket.

This is what he posted about it:
They also made drawings for usage of the No. 32 scope on the P.14 rifle in May 1940. They never produced them, but fortunately the drawings survived. And I went through the hassle to make myself one of these mounts, based on the drawings. Looks like this complete.
P14_No32_01.jpg
P14_No32_07.jpg
P14_No32_03.jpg

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:52 pm
by waterford103
GeeRam wrote:Found it and it maybe the same one you saw, as I think the guy is maybe from UK and Sheffield area?
Although, it looks like his one is not an offset scope and is mounted on a 4T style bracket.

This is what he posted about it:
They also made drawings for usage of the No. 32 scope on the P.14 rifle in May 1940. They never produced them, but fortunately the drawings survived. And I went through the hassle to make myself one of these mounts, based on the drawings. Looks like this complete.
P14_No32_01.jpg
P14_No32_07.jpg
P14_No32_03.jpg

It might be that one , I distinctly remember that it was a little offset to the left , the bloke said he zeroed a little off to compensate , still found the bull at 1000yds !

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:53 pm
by ovenpaa
Geeram, that is perfect, I have a trick P14 and now the No32 Mk1 so putting the two together makes perfect sense. Do you have a reference for the original article of images please? PM is fine as the last time I did this I all but received death threats for such a heinous crime to a P14 :)

EDIT - Found it and even remembered my password :)

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:34 pm
by Gundog
Yes on a sporterised P14......well not exactly a No32 Mk1 scope but a No42 Mk1 scope, same tube size, on Parker Hale mounts.

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:18 pm
by ovenpaa
The drawings are here for the No3 rifle mk1. I cannot reproduce the full and dimensioned version however this is OK apparently. So a No32 on a P14 does seem viable now I have all of the dimensions. I was told it was secret hush hush however it is not that secret as the high res images are available for a fiver from the Royal Armouries.
Bracket.PNG
Crown Copyright : courtesy of the Royal Armouries

Re: No32 Mk1, have you ever seen one onother than on a 4(T)?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:43 pm
by GeeRam
Ovenpaa wrote:The drawings are here for the No3 rifle mk1. I cannot reproduce the full and dimensioned version however this is OK apparently. So a No32 on a P14 does seem viable now I have all of the dimensions. I was told it was secret hush hush however it is not that secret as the high res images are available for a fiver from the Royal Armouries.
Bracket.PNG
Crown Copyright : courtesy of the Royal Armouries
Glad to hear that my hunch of where the drg was held was correct then :good: