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Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:28 pm
by Sandgroper
It seems that the Policing and Crime Bill received Royal Assent yesterday which opens the door to the eventual reclassification of expanding ammunition to S1.
https://basc.org.uk/blog/press-releases ... -act-2017/
“We welcome the firearms sections of the Act. In particular we are pleased to see common sense prevail over expanding ammunition, which will no longer be classed as prohibited...
(however) Peter Glenser, BASC Chairman and a barrister specialising in firearms law, said:
“There will be little immediate change as most of the Act will involves Rules, or secondary legislation, which have yet to be drawn up."
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:54 am
by joe
How many RFDs will sell expanding ammo to standard fac holders remains to be seen even through the law is now clear
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:29 am
by Blackstuff
Its still not going to come into force until the Home Office has issued technical guidance to the police which isn't expected until the summer, according to the Countryside Alliance
http://www.countryside-alliance.org/fir ... e-bill-qa/
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:01 am
by saddler
joe wrote:How many RFDs will sell expanding ammo to standard fac holders remains to be seen even through the law is now clear
They all used to sell it before the change.
My AR15A2 liked IMI Samson 55gr soft-point...
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:01 am
by Polchraine
Will the 8 week "grace period" or auto-extension do much to solve the backlog and delays in the police systems?
There will be less work to do issuing Section7 permits but how much time does it take? Will some forces now just move their target to have them completed at the end of the additional 8 weeks? And when they fail, have to issue S7 permits?
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:44 am
by Blackstuff
It would be interesting to find out what the current and proposed (once this change comes into effect) targets are for FEO's turning grants/renewals around in. i.e. x number of days before the expiry date/the expiry date/extension date etc
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:24 pm
by dromia
The turn around/resource issue is being partly addressed by their "less FACs/less firearms held" targets which will generate less demand.
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:44 pm
by BamBam
Yes, plenty of cheap bulk ammo comes in soft point.
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:25 pm
by joe
dromia wrote:The turn around/resource issue is being partly addressed by their "less FACs/less firearms held" targets which will generate less demand.
Yep that's the met police policy ! Any excause to revoke (not to protect the public or stop the wrong sort ) if they could, they would pull someone's fac for a parking ticket ! Yet at the same time they buy themselves more firepower and wear more paramilitary type clothing !
Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:23 pm
by Sim G
joe wrote:dromia wrote:
Yep that's the met police policy ! Any excause to revoke (not to protect the public or stop the wrong sort ) if they could, they would pull someone's fac for a parking ticket ! Yet at the same time they buy themselves more firepower and wear more paramilitary type clothing !
Honestly Joe, less paranoia please...