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Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:31 pm
by dave_303
I know the subject of alarms has been done to death somewhat on the forum. Some background, I've just out in for another variation, to add 8 more slots to my FAC including 2 unused slots already on there. I've received a call from my FLD saying that they won't approve it as the house only has an audible alarm and that I've now hit their 15 gun per house limit. They claim that I now have to fit a monitored alarm.
I told them in polite terms to stop talking crap as there is already a further 12 guns in the house on my Dad's FAC and SGC.
I know the security guidance is fairly vague in alarms and states something along the lines of that an alarm of some sort is recommended once 10'or more guns are in situ. Where do I go from here on this?
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:33 pm
by zanes
Pretty sure that the guidance is explicit in that number of firearms cannot be given as a sole reason for needing an alarm.
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:34 pm
by saddler
The Guidance to Police states that the NUMBER of guns ALONE is NOT a good enough reason to insist on an alarm.
SimG will be along soon....
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:59 pm
by Christel
It differs from county to county.
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:03 pm
by saddler
...never knew the Firearms Acts had been devolved from nation-wide to county-wide.
Will make life in Norfolk even more interesting...
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:09 pm
by dromia
They tried that on me years ago when I was only asking for 30 slots on my FAC.
At the end of the day it is security in relation to the risk.
I wrote back explaining to them that I though what they were asking was excessive in relation to the risk, low crime area, guns kept in differing cabinets on three levels in the house with bolts kept in cabinets with different rifles, existing house alarm, good window and door locks, reinforced door jambs. told them I wasn't an RFD so wasn't advertising that I held firearms.
They wrote back saying that the current security was acceptable and at the end of the day I was responsible for my firearms security not them.
Challenge them, they can only say no and it will only cost you your time.
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:35 pm
by Christel
saddler wrote:...never knew the Firearms Acts had been devolved from nation-wide to county-wide.
Will make life in Norfolk even more interesting...
Saddler, you tell me different. Of course it differs, just like everything else in relation to FAC/RFD/SGC, all down to the local authority and what works best for them and their customers (us).
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:03 pm
by 20series
christel wrote:It differs from county to county.
Cambridgeshire say that anymore than 9 requires an alarm,
Alan
Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:18 pm
by Blu
Tell them you have two large noisy dogs, best alarm and deterrent there is.
Blu

Re: Storage and Alarms
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:38 pm
by Christel
20series wrote:christel wrote:It differs from county to county.
Cambridgeshire say that anymore than 9 requires an alarm,
Alan
Bedfordshire, double figures and you need an alarm. RFD and it needs to be monitored.