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Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:32 pm
by GazMorris
Full-borers,
I've got an old Mauser 98 which is in reasonably good nick and has a nice stock that I'm going to have turned into a fun gun (and eventually a sporting rifle) in 260 Remington. After a few conversations I've arranged for it to be rebarelled but it also needs a scope rail. I've found this link online
http://www.jjkshootingsupplies.co.uk/pr ... 4/#tdesc_1.
Does anyone have any experience of this product? Alternatively, does anyone have any suggestions for another scope rail?
Many Thanks,
Gaz
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:07 pm
by Alpha1
Isn't the 260 cartridge a lot shorter than the 8mm mauser how will that affect the action.
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:15 pm
by Alpha1
8mm Mauser cartridge Overall length 82.00 mm (3.228 in).
260
I don't know any thing about re barreling rifles I am looking to be educated excuse me if I am talking tosh.
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:06 am
by GazMorris
Alpha1 wrote:Isn't the 260 cartridge a lot shorter than the 8mm mauser how will that affect the action.
Hi Alpha,
The rifle is currently chambered in 308 Winchester, which has the same nominal OAL as 260 Remington; however it feeds from the magazine and functions fine despite the difference in OAL between 308 and 8x57.
Cheers,
Gaz
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:59 am
by waterford103
There is a small problem with using short cartridges in long mauser actions.The cartridge needs to be loaded into the magazine firmly to the rear , sometimes the action of feeding the uppermost round will drag forward the one beneath causing a jam.Parker - Hale and others solved this by using a shorter magazine box to control the rearward position of the cartridges .I solved the problem with mine by using the mag follower and spring from an old P-H and a packer / spacer in the front of the box. My 1938 FN Mauser ,if it doesn't sell soon , will become a .260 ,it's currently 7.62 and very accurate ,it's fitted with a long side rail mount in military configuration but I too want a sporter.
:goodjob:
the mount you showed looks good ,I might get one .
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:15 am
by GazMorris
waterford103 wrote:There is a small problem with using short cartridges in long mauser actions.The cartridge needs to be loaded into the magazine firmly to the rear , sometimes the action of feeding the uppermost round will drag forward the one beneath causing a jam.Parker - Hale and others solved this by using a shorter magazine box to control the rearward position of the cartridges .I solved the problem with mine by using the mag follower and spring from an old P-H and a packer / spacer in the front of the box.
Interesting, I've not used the magazine much to date other than to check that it functions OK in its current state, so maybe I've just been lucky so far. I'll keep an eye out for this. Thanks, Waterford!
waterford103 wrote:the mount you showed looks good ,I might get one .
It does look good, but it did look like the scope was quite high above the line of the stock, which would require a raised cheekpiece - not the end of the world but not ideal as I quite like the layout of the stock as it is.
Thanks,
Gaz
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:50 pm
by Chapuis
GazMorris wrote:waterford103 wrote:There is a small problem with using short cartridges in long mauser actions.The cartridge needs to be loaded into the magazine firmly to the rear , sometimes the action of feeding the uppermost round will drag forward the one beneath causing a jam.Parker - Hale and others solved this by using a shorter magazine box to control the rearward position of the cartridges .I solved the problem with mine by using the mag follower and spring from an old P-H and a packer / spacer in the front of the box.
Interesting,
I've not used the magazine much to date other than to check that it functions OK in its current state, so maybe I've just been lucky so far. I'll keep an eye out for this. Thanks, Waterford!
waterford103 wrote:the mount you showed looks good ,I might get one .
It does look good, but it did look like the scope was quite high above the line of the stock, which would require a raised cheekpiece - not the end of the world but not ideal as I quite like the layout of the stock as it is.
Thanks,
Gaz
I take it that you do feed it from the magazine and not simply drop a round in from the top and force the extractor claw over the rim of the cartridge. If true Mauser action rifles aren't fed from beneath via the mag that will lead to all sorts of problems in the long term.
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:07 am
by GazMorris
Chapuis wrote:
I take it that you do feed it from the magazine and not simply drop a round in from the top and force the extractor claw over the rim of the cartridge. If true Mauser action rifles aren't fed from beneath via the mag that will lead to all sorts of problems in the long term.
The extractor has been modified so that it can work in either mode. This is fairly easy to do with a bit of patience and a good stone.
Gaz
Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:15 am
by Chapuis
Why, you have effectively done away with one of the strongest features of the Mauser action. It's no bother to simply push the round down into the mag first. Parker Hale never saw the need to change this in their single shot Mauser actioned rifles.
Sacrilidge. :

grin:
You should have bought a push feed rifle. :roll:
emrolleyes

Re: Mauser 98 Scope Rail
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:15 pm
by Gaz
Chapuis wrote:I take it that you do feed it from the magazine and not simply drop a round in from the top and force the extractor claw over the rim of the cartridge. If true Mauser action rifles aren't fed from beneath via the mag that will lead to all sorts of problems in the long term.
What problems are these? Curious, as one of my clubs currently has a cabinet full of Parker-Hales and Mausers, all of which (as far as we know) have been push-fed all their lives and they're still functioning fine...