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Rab wrote:
Says the man that uses made up words from another internet forum to describe bullets. Might just be that you're the one that needs to take a look in the mirror and then afterwards practice what you preach.

You really don't want to get it. Maybe if you tried reading what I said it would help you, it isn't different names that bother me but confusing different names. The use of boolit is a just a bit of fun as a misspelt bullet, in all my Handloading instructing I have never come across anyone one that was confused by the use of the term, perhaps a little puzzled by why I couldn't spell but clear about what I meant, I have come across numerous neophyte handloaders who are confused about the parts of the cartridge by bullet head and case head.

If the term didn't cause confusion in people then I wouldn't care about the name, surely we want to make getting into handloading as easy and safe as possible, wilfully bandying about confusing terms does not do this.

I have already explained this but you obviously chose to ignore for that for the sake of argument.

Moving from reloading jacketed bullets to reloading cast bullets was quite a learning curve for me. Initially I loaded lots of handgun calibers in straight wall cases with cast bullets that was pretty straight forward. Once the hand guns had gone and I acquired rifles it was not long before the itch to start reloading flared up again. Once I had got my head round jacketed I decided to develop loads for some of my milsurp in cast. The journey down the cast bullet route and the learning curve was interesting. So many different bullets totally different powders bullet that had to fit the bore to work correctly chamber casts. Alloying for different hardness and still the journey continues.

It's not a case of I don't want to get it, It's more a case of I think you're talking crap. Just like your boolit thing if someone is a new handloader and is confused over the difference between case head and calling a bullet a head, then as with your spelling of the word bullet all it takes is a simple explanation to put them right if instructing them.

I agree that some people reading bits and pieces on the internet, without support or reading a good manual is not a good thing, but I think even they will realise the difference between case heads and the use of the word head to describe a bullet. If they don't or can't then as I said previously, perhaps handloading isn't for them.

You can disagree with me all you want but to dismiss what I know as crap is not helpful to any discussion, I think what you say is crap because it denies what I have seen from experience. However those sort of simplistic dismissals will go nowhere.

You are entrenched in your position, so be it then. You chose not to believe me and that is your choice but you obviously have no knowledge of what I base my views on so your disbelief is of no relevance to me.

I know it leads to confusion from first hand experience of working with tyro handloaders and I will continue to correct the misuse of the term when I see fit.

I am not dismissing what you know or your knowledge of handloading as crap, what I disagree with is the case head bullet/head thing and think it's nonsense.

You are quite happy to dismiss what I write as lack of imagination without knowing what handloading experience I have or the number of people I have introduced to it. You are happy to write off what I write as simplistic dismissals, and you call me entrenched! In the past you have warned people and locked threads for doing much the same thing. At least I willing to agree with you to some extent.

I have not presumed to know or questioned your level of knowledge so I would ask you to extend me the same courtesy thanks. Anyway I'm done with this, you can call bullets what you like and I'll do the same, personally I refer to them as bullets and don't get bent out of shape when others call them something else for the simple reason that any new handloader will soon learn otherwise just from reading material such as this forum itself.

Happy shooting

Gents, there is no need to get nasty about this. We all know that bullets are often called heads incorrectly and it is worth pointing out to newcomers the correct term. Where 'boolit' came from I do not know. I think it is a ridiculous term but that's just my opinion.

If some one uses the term boolit I know we're the original term came from and I know it refers to a cast boolit as opposed to a jacketed bullet. Makes perfect sense to me. A bullet of any description does not have a head. A bullet is a bullet or a boolit never a bulletin head.
Can we get back on topic now we have all had our two pence worth.

Spent the afternoon at Bisley with my son at 1000 yards with a target to ourselves testing some 155.5 Bergers, 185 juggernauts and 168 Sierra matchkings. All with RS52. The juggernauts with a few diff powder charges (0.3gr steps). Apart from a handful, all within about 1.5MOA vertical of the v-bull and majority within 1 MOA. Very happy with the outcome if not my wind reading (a handful pushed out to the Magpie)......now if only I could remember my ogive from my meplat I might get the spread down to 0.5MOA
Hope everyone else add a good afternoons shooting :)

I started reloading when I got my Howa .223 and the urge to smoke my own took over. I watched loads of youtube videos, read every forum going and bought myself a second edition Lee manual. I then started off with a Lee Loader, Lee scale and a few other bits and pieces which allowed me to take it slow and learn the processes etc, I set about making ammo and a subsonic load using a 55 grain bullet and Hodgdons Titegroup. Results were good but the slow speed grew frustrating....

That rifle went and along came the .44 Magnum and another Lee Loader.......the bangs and time taken nearly led to divorce so I decided to invest in modern equipment.....I sold some stuff and treated myself to a Lee breachlock handpress ,autoprime and powder dispenser which turned out to be a revelation.....now while the Mrs is watching carp on tv, I can do all the case prep in the same room and when she pops out, i load the powder etc. I bang out 200 rounds a session now and pack the kit away into a box!

Now a new reloading adventure is close to beginning, the 7.62x54R.

I started re-loading slowly and painfully but these days I will gladly give a "High 3" to anyone offering useful hints and tips