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Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:48 pm
by IainWR
If you are an NRA member do give me a call on this one. I do all sorts of quasi-legal stuff for the NRA, but security I was actually taught and have argued (successfully) to the courts.
Iain
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:02 pm
by breacher
Rarms wrote:In my opinion a house alarm is a no brainer if you have a few grands worth of guns/valuables in the house. £200 will get a decent brand one with a few sensors and which will call a phone number/s when it goes off.
A shed alarm on the room the cabinets are in? Come on, that might tick a box, but we should be thinking about real security not box ticking.
Every month at least I seem to read of a ticket holder getting robbed, I would rather have an alarm rigged to sensors that I have planned and placed internally, and that is going to go loud outside on my street, and alert all the neighbours to look out their windows, than a 'shed' alarm on an internal room.
You say that - but if every one of my valuables was locked away in a gun cabinet I doubt I would bother with insurance.
Any statistics on numbers of firearms stolen from cabinets ?
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:08 pm
by 20series
BamBam wrote:20series wrote:IIRC Cambridgeshire have a policy of up to 9 is Ok, over 9 requires an alarm and 12 as a max.
Alan
So after 12 what happens?
They say no.. I assume
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:15 pm
by Daryll
With my guns and empty slots i'm up to 8...When my son, who was living at home at the time, applied for his FAC with 3 slots, the FEO said "so thats 11 total in the house... any more than that and you'll need an alarm..."
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:41 am
by HALODIN
11 slots in Northants require an unmonitored alarm. I didn't argue, because at the end of the day it's not a bad idea and it should lower you home insurance anyway... Crime in my area was cited as one of the reasons, even though there is no crime in this village, in fact I'm not sure anyone knows it's here. My alarm was about £500 which in the grand scheme of things isn't expensive, plus it has 2 keyfobs which make activating it no more difficult than locking your car with a keyfob.
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:40 am
by Robert303
If you do get a decent alarm tell your insurance co and look for a reduction in premium.
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:41 am
by glevum
If you tell your insurance co. you have an alarm, you may not be covered unless the alarm is set.
If you forget to set the alarm and have a break in they may decline the claim.
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:43 am
by HALODIN
I thought the same just after I posted above. Good point well made!
glevum wrote:If you tell your insurance co. you have an alarm, you may not be covered unless the alarm is set.
If you forget to set the alarm and have a break in they may decline the claim.
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:02 pm
by Chuck
Too many guns - compared to who?
Re: TOO MANY GUNS?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:28 pm
by Andy632
Even if you have a "monitored" alarm, will the Police Respond????????????
Answer.......................Apparently not necessarily!
ACPO (The Association of Chief Police Officers of England, Wales and Northern Ireland), who specify police constabulary service guidelines, introduced a new policy on Police Response to Security Systems in 2000 which was last revised in April 2012 (download the ACPO Policy on Police Response to Security Systems (April 2012)), and since an Appendix F was added in January 2013 (ACPO Policy on Police Response to Security Systems – Appendix F (Jan 2013)).
These guidelines (the ACPO Policy) state that the police force will only attend monitored intruder alarms that ‘confirm’ alarm activations, whereas previously, the Police would respond at the first activation without requiring confirmation.
Normally, an alarm is considered ‘confirmed’ when a second detection device is activated during the same intrusion. This verifies that there is definite movement at the premises and therefore there is less chance of the activation being a false alarm.