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Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:36 pm
by kennyc
ukrifleman wrote:In that case, I just hope that the next Scot who ventures into a public place wearing his kilt and with a knife stuffed down his sock, realises he could be in deep doo-doo.
ukrifleman.
I thought the law made exceptions for items or cultural/religious relevence ?

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:52 pm
by Sim G
Gaz wrote:So a rifle with a bayonet fixed or built in is actually an illegal knife, or something? Bit confuzzled here.

No it is not. The problem we seem to have here is that an over zealous FEO and/or an over sensitive RFD have come up with an offence that does not exist.

The first thing is, the bayonet is permanently affixed to the rifle. It is not a separate item. It is being treated as a separate item. Is the blade of a lawn mower a separate item? Of course it isn't. As the bayonet is fixed, there is ample good reason and a statutory defence to have this item with him, in a public place, if for a lawful reason. And travelling to, shooting on a range or even showing the rifle in a gunshop is a lawful reason.

To be honest, even if the bayonet was separate, the case would be exactly the same. To or from where ever, in possession of the bayonet in a public place because of some lawful use there a statutory defence! And as for removing the rifle from the home is ridiculous! There is lawful authority to possess the rifle and any amount of bladed or sharply pointed items can be possessed at home.

Is this the sort of rubbish in store for Scots should they "elect" King Alex....?

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:53 pm
by Sim G
ukrifleman wrote:In that case, I just hope that the next Scot who ventures into a public place wearing his kilt and with a knife stuffed down his sock, realises he could be in deep doo-doo.
ukrifleman.

There is a statutory defence in regards to work (which covers sports and past times), religious or national dress.

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm
by Blighty
Skean Dubh completely different matter.

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:12 pm
by Mikaveli
Sim G wrote: Is this the sort of rubbish in store for Scots should they "elect" King Alex....?
Yes...

I wouldn't want to be a firearms owner in Scotland if they end up with that blowfish in charge.

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:13 pm
by dromia
Sgian Dubh!

A pigeon on an alpine holiday.

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:17 pm
by Sandgroper
Only just clocked this and it is truly bizarre! :cool2: Sounds like Strathclyde FLD is missing it's independence under Police Scotland.

I'm going to make sure I have bayonets for my rifles now! Speaking of which, hopefully they don't get really anal about this an insist that bayonet lugs are removed from rifles. ****

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 pm
by Blighty
Strange, used to wear one with my kilt to church every Sunday. Must be a daft lowlander mistake!

Really struggling with the muckwittery of the dealer. Next they'll be demanding that the tip is nipped off. Genuinely wonder if the Police would even have bothered without the RFD getting his knickers in a twist.

Genuinely thrown by this one.

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03 pm
by northumbrian
My vote for the RFD being a complete **** **** ****

Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:33 pm
by Blu
Sconie, I hope you get your rifle back mate. You may want to think about finding another RDF me thinks.

Blu :twisted: