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I wouldn't get out of a chair to look at a 100 year old rifle..........

Pete

Pete wrote:I wouldn't get out of a chair to look at a 100 year old rifle..........

Pete

You don’t know what you’re missing then!

Saw an RFD at a club tell the guy he needed a new barrel on his Remington Rifle and took it off him in a p/x deal as a scrapper a week later he sold it to someone else in the same club (untouched) as a good rifle ......

The above comments show the difference between those interested in shooting and those interested in guns. The two are not always the same. The shooter wants a rifle to put the bullet exactly where intended on the target every time. He/she is not bothered if it is a Tikka or a Tokka so long as it does the job of putting the bullet in the right place. Those interested in guns, however, are not always bothered if the bullet does not hit the bull every time. Indeed, hitting the black is a bonus sometimes. It is the gun that is the main interest, target score is secondary. I like the history of old guns. Where has it been in the last 100 years or so, who has used it before me and where? I have never used a bore scope on my rifles. It would not be comfortable to show a bore up close that has possibly been used in two world wars and not always cleaned properly. I am sure a couple of my rifles have pits that Arthur Scargil would be interested in. They can still shoot a bullet as they were designed to do though not always in the same place as the last one. A friend was always interested in guns and has several old ones but he has now got interested in shooting as well and has bought a Tikka TAC A1 in 6.5 Creedmore to try to shoot the V bull out.
Regards
Peter.

I have a mix of both I prefer the older milsurp stuff. But I also own a 6.5 Creedmoor etc. I enjoy the old guns Im not bothered about getting tight groups with them. If I just want to shoot the middle out of the target and get it done the Creedmoor or my Steyr gets the job done. I would jump out of my chair to go look at a 100-year-old gun of interest even if it was someone else's.

PeterN wrote:The above comments show the difference between those interested in shooting and those interested in guns. The two are not always the same. The shooter wants a rifle to put the bullet exactly where intended on the target every time. He/she is not bothered if it is a Tikka or a Tokka so long as it does the job of putting the bullet in the right place. Those interested in guns, however, are not always bothered if the bullet does not hit the bull every time. Indeed, hitting the black is a bonus sometimes. It is the gun that is the main interest, target score is secondary. I like the history of old guns.

I am a big fan of Titanic era rifles, both rim fire and centre fire. However anything from the late 1880s to the early 1930s will do and I seldom shoot anything newer other than an early 70s Miroku as a woodland game gun. Even my woodland stalking rifle is a 110 year old .303 sporter and will be a 115 year old Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5mm later this year.

Townsend Whelan said, “Only accurate rifles are interesting.”

PeterN wrote:The above comments show the difference between those interested in shooting and those interested in guns. The two are not always the same. The shooter wants a rifle to put the bullet exactly where intended on the target every time. He/she is not bothered if it is a Tikka or a Tokka so long as it does the job of putting the bullet in the right place. Those interested in guns, however, are not always bothered if the bullet does not hit the bull every time. Indeed, hitting the black is a bonus sometimes. It is the gun that is the main interest, target score is secondary. I like the history of old guns. Where has it been in the last 100 years or so, who has used it before me and where? I have never used a bore scope on my rifles. It would not be comfortable to show a bore up close that has possibly been used in two world wars and not always cleaned properly. I am sure a couple of my rifles have pits that Arthur Scargil would be interested in. They can still shoot a bullet as they were designed to do though not always in the same place as the last one. A friend was always interested in guns and has several old ones but he has now got interested in shooting as well and has bought a Tikka TAC A1 in 6.5 Creedmore to try to shoot the V bull out.
Regards
Peter.

To be fair I’m interested in both and I’d put my 1944 Izhevsk PU sniper up against a lot of modern rifles any day of the week.