Police forces different enforcement

[dromia]

Well BooBoo looks like hypernormalisation is alive, well and thriving in the gunowning community if the response to your question here is anything to go by.

Obviously everything in the gun owning garden must be rosy and those of us who see it differently must be badly out of step.

I think I'll be looking at my three year trajectory to get out of this shooting lark and seeing how I can bring it forward especially as this covid thing has put a spanner in the works of the plan somewhat.

I didn't think my disilusionment in the shooting community could get any worse but wrong again.

[Sim G]

Simply, we don’t have the numbers to even begin to challenge a century of legislation at government level. There is the inevitable comparison to the US NRA and shooters see their relative success and believe it can be emulated for a “tenner a year”.

70 million gun owners in the US with a NRA membership of only 5.5 million. What 7% of gun owners. But they have a yearly revenue according to Wiki, in excess of $420 million! That’s a lot of money. We have under 600K people with certificates and only 160K FACS.

So for arguments sake, let say all of the FACS were for target shooting, though clearly not, a tenner each in the bucket? £1.6 million. FFS, Alex Salmond’s legal fees were £50OK for one court case! As Iain also stated earlier, even with money, you can’t get people to listen or print our side.

We did have a legal challenge with the pistol ban that went all the way to the European Court that started with bucket collections. But, fell at the last hurdle and the money was gone.

But what we should be hammering is locally administered issues. Take Durham for instance. Their service is in short, s***. There are some very, very questionable practices that have been adopted as policy! That is what should be targeted. Especially as the Continuity ACPO lead is Durham’s Chief! A couple, or three m, four or even a dozen local County Court cases against the Chief and the PCC. Not big headline grabbing cases, but hard, sleeves up, grinding court cases designed to sap the strength for there abuse of process.

Little committees could be formed and a case launched in the name of an individual who has been aggrieved, and then commence a program of attrition. Start hammering them locally. And when Continuity ACPO huddle around their table, they can share their takes of defeat, and that is what will influence their opinion which will not necessarily get back what we’ve had taken, but it might bring the ba$yards to behave in a manner respectful to the certificate holder and with a regard to the published and enacted guidance and legislation.