Stuck 30m1 brass

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Stuck 30m1 brass

#1 Post by bradaz11 »

I'm getting 30m1 brass sticking it my dies to the point the head is being ripped off when trying to extract it. Norma brass is the worse culprit.
Should I be lubing this brass? And if so, what is the easiest way?

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Is it a carbide die or steel die.
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#3 Post by Mattnall »

Lube it if it keeps getting stuck.
Carbide dies shouldn't stick with small straight walled cases but if it is lube it.
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It's carbide
What's the easiest way to lube them?

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#5 Post by dromia »

Hornady Unique, just a dab on the finger and rub round the case afore it goes into die.

Batch lubing for progressives, mix up some lanolin and IPA, do a search on here for various recipes posted previously.

Dump in a plastic bag spray some of the home made lube into the bag with the cases and agitate to get covered and away you go.

The lube will need wiping off each case afterwards.

Are you using an expander in the size die.

If so remove it a see if that makes a difference, it may be set wrongly.

Either way you should remove such as it does nothing but harm your cases.
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#6 Post by glevum »

30M1 is not a straight case.

There is 20 thou taper over the length of the case.

I lube my cases when resizing and have not had any stick so far, touch wood.

The lube I use is Lee Resizing Lube
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dromia wrote: Batch lubing for progressives, mix up some lanolin and IPA...
Iso Propyl Alcohol or India Pale Ale?
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First for the lube, second for the shooter and I Pish Anywhere after a few of either.
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glevum wrote:30M1 is not a straight case.

There is 20 thou taper over the length of the case.

I lube my cases when resizing and have not had any stick so far, touch wood.

The lube I use is Lee Resizing Lube
This is the right answer. Because the cases are slightly tapered you can't classify it as a straight wall cartridge like a 357mag. The advice is to lube cases even if you're using carbide dies. In this instance, the carbide insert just makes it easier to size rather than being a replacement for lube.

The quickest way I've found to lube these cases sufficiently is to place a couple of fingers full of Imperial Sizing wax into a sandwich bag and fill with an appropriate amount of cases. Seal the bag and either shake or give them a good roll. When you remove the cases make sure to scrape some lube off your palm using the case mouth. If you feed the die some lubed cases, the next case which doesn't need a healthy lubing to size properly but light lubing so its not essential for every case to have sufficient lube. I've done this for 1,500 resizing (PPU predominantly) without a single stuck case. I am using the Lee carbide sizing die.
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Re: Stuck 30m1 brass

#10 Post by bradaz11 »

Thanks all.
I'm using Lee carbide dies, so no sized rod, just a decapper.
The only live I have currently is the Lee lube. That talks about diluting with water. Would you cut that with IPA instead? Also is IPA still stupid hard to get? As I've only got a small tin of it

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