My guess is that his not guilty plea says this isn't the case though.RDC wrote:It may have been that he was approached and coerced. Threats to one's own life or the lives of your family can be a big motivator to accept a job like this, I imagine.
RFD underworld armourer
Moderator: dromia
Forum rules
Should your post be in Grumpy Old Men? This area is for general shooting related posts only please.
Should your post be in Grumpy Old Men? This area is for general shooting related posts only please.
Re: RFD underworld armourer
Re: RFD underworld armourer
Nothing but a filthy greed that saw him flout the law for money, whilst simultaneously betraying those people who funded his legitimate business. This will continue to have ramifications for those who legally hold s58, they are well on the governments radar now in no small part due to Edmunds.
I hope a discretionary Life Sentence gets dropped on him...
I hope a discretionary Life Sentence gets dropped on him...
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Re: RFD underworld armourer
I strongly suspect you are right.GeeRam wrote:My guess is that his not guilty plea says this isn't the case though.RDC wrote:It may have been that he was approached and coerced. Threats to one's own life or the lives of your family can be a big motivator to accept a job like this, I imagine.
Re: RFD underworld armourer
Sounds like he was motivated by money, considering the payouts from his go-between.
This is the second RFD in the news for selling guns to criminals, but the first to get to court. There was a RFD from Ashbourne selling sawn off shotguns, allegedly.
This is the second RFD in the news for selling guns to criminals, but the first to get to court. There was a RFD from Ashbourne selling sawn off shotguns, allegedly.

Re: RFD underworld armourer
I'd like the victims families to be there when he's sent down. And for him to have to hear about the devastation his greed has caused.
Deserves to die in prison imo.
Deserves to die in prison imo.
- mag41uk
- Posts: 1855
- Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:50 pm
- Home club or Range: Aldershot R & P Club
- Location: Reading
- Contact:
Re: RFD underworld armourer
This is the guy who was always at the Bisley fairs.
What a completely selfish, thoughtless, brain dead xxxxing xxnt.
What a completely selfish, thoughtless, brain dead xxxxing xxnt.
Re: RFD underworld armourer
What I find surprising is the reported 90 shooting incidents where his firearms/ammunition was involved. If the report is correct it indicates just how readily some members of the criminal community are willing to use firearms if they have access to them.
Re: RFD underworld armourer
What about the stuff we do NOT know about.....that's the worrying part nowadays. Selfish idiot!
Political Correctness is the language of lies, written by the corrupt , spoken by the inept!
Re: RFD underworld armourer
While not seeking to defend this person in any way , we as shooters must be well aware of how the police and the media will play games with facts and figures to achieve the result that they want .
The prosecution talks of "recoveries were of pre-war handguns for which there was no commercially available ammunition" . I would ask , pre what war ?
It was also said that he was a "licensed or registered firearms dealer who is permitted to possess handguns as well as rifles and shotguns." Does this mean he was a section 5 dealer ?
And there is the claim that "Edmunds had imported hundreds of guns from the United States without putting them on his Firearms Register" . This suggests that the high levels of freight and parcelscanning that is supposed to take place both in the USA and UK is almost non existant .
I think there is a lot more to this story , and the only way we might get the real facts is by spending time in court .
The prosecution talks of "recoveries were of pre-war handguns for which there was no commercially available ammunition" . I would ask , pre what war ?
It was also said that he was a "licensed or registered firearms dealer who is permitted to possess handguns as well as rifles and shotguns." Does this mean he was a section 5 dealer ?
And there is the claim that "Edmunds had imported hundreds of guns from the United States without putting them on his Firearms Register" . This suggests that the high levels of freight and parcelscanning that is supposed to take place both in the USA and UK is almost non existant .
I think there is a lot more to this story , and the only way we might get the real facts is by spending time in court .
- Dark Skies
- Posts: 2860
- Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:02 am
- Home club or Range: NRA
- Contact:
Re: RFD underworld armourer
I'm a throwback to the olde worlde judicial system that was once the envy of the free world.
You know, stuffy old concepts such as the right to silence (not the watered down joke it has become), a person being presumed innocent until proven guilty, trial by a jury of your peers rather than the media. All that old unfashionable guff.
Post trial we'll be better placed to know the facts stripped from the sensationalism.
But what do I know? I hail from the days when fingerprints required sixteen points of recognition in order to be considered sound evidence.
You know, stuffy old concepts such as the right to silence (not the watered down joke it has become), a person being presumed innocent until proven guilty, trial by a jury of your peers rather than the media. All that old unfashionable guff.
Post trial we'll be better placed to know the facts stripped from the sensationalism.
But what do I know? I hail from the days when fingerprints required sixteen points of recognition in order to be considered sound evidence.
"I don't like my job and I don't think I'm gonna go anymore."
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests